Quodlibet Regarding the Alleged Apparitions of Medjugorje

Quodlibet Regarding the Alleged Apparitions of Medjugorje
By Matthew Bellisario O.P. 2020





What is a Quodlibet?

Webster's defines quodlibet as "a philosophical or theological point proposed for disputation also: a disputation on such a point." For those of you who have read medieval theologians and the history of the medieval university, you are aware that theologians often debated topics of interest, these are known as quodlibets. They would purpose a question or series of questions and then investigate it putting forth the pros and cons for either upholding or refuting the proposed statement. 

In this post, I will be doing my own quodlibet regarding the alleged apparitions at Medjugorje. It seems that my post 'Are You Following a Popular Narrative!?' in which I used the very brief example of Medjugorje struck a nerve and put me on the outs with the traditionalist narrative. I made the statement that I had withheld my judgment on the alleged apparitions of Medjugorje until I had investigated the issue further. I was subsequently accused of being lukewarm for not making a negative judgment on it. My prudence and integrity were called into question because I have not made a definitive judgment, more specifically a negative judgment. So in response, and for a fun exercise, I compiled the main objections as they were largely presented to me and I have put together this quodlibet based on them. This is my first attempt at this so bear with me.
  



I formatted the question in the same manner as you would find in the Summa Theologica. First I present the question, followed by the negative objection to the question, then followed by a Sed Contra objection. I then present my general response and then my specific refutation of each objection answering the question in the affirmative. Obviously, as of this point in time, I still have withheld my judgment on the issue and so this quodlibet is a follows. Please note, this question does not have anything to do with those who are for or against the apparitions, nor is it in any way a condemnation of their judgment for or against. It deals with only this one specific question which addresses my supposed prudence and integrity in withholding my judgment on the matter or anyone else that has done so.

Quodlibet: Can a Catholic legitimately act in prudential good faith through withholding his or her judgment regarding the legitimacy of the alleged apparitions of Medjugorje? 

Objection 1: The local bishop has made the definitive conclusion of it being nothing of supernatural origin that has never been rescinded, but "YOU" withhold judgment? Prudence is good, but obedience is even better.

Objection 2: You must judge this to be false because many reliable Internet sources have proven that some of the messages are questionable or even heretical. 

Objection 3: You must judge this alleged apparition to be false because the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith formerly Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Mueller expressed his personal doubts about the phenomenon and about the Ruini report which judged the first seven apparitions to be of supernatural origin. Furthermore, Bishop Andrea Gemma was against it and he was an exorcist!

Objection 4: If you can't discern, after all the evidence presented of heretical messages, and scandalous behaviors of the purported visionaries and their defrocked, disobedient initial priests, and insist on remaining neutral with no opinion whatsoever because of a Francis Commission that only considered the first few messages so be it. I find you neither hot nor cold, but rather lukewarm on the subject and have a higher opinion of supporters as at least they can be resolutely engaged for the good; either way.

Sed Contra: The seers have caused division between the Franciscans and the local ordinary, they are only seeking monetary gain, therefore the fruits of the entire event are rotten. The former exorcist Bishop Andrea Gemma said: “At Medjugorje, everything happens for the sake of money: pilgrimages, overnight stays, the sales of trinkets.” It’s “a mixture between personal and diabolical interests: the false seers and their helpers are pocketing the money, and the Devil creates discord between the faithful and the Church.”

Respondeo: Given that there are many new important factors and evidence involved in judging the apparitions to be true or false beyond the local ordinary, beyond the opinions of hierarchical figures and taking into account the conflicting evidence on the messages and credibility of the seers, a Catholic can in a prudential act of good faith withhold his or her judgment on the alleged apparitions of Medjugorje. 

Reply to Objection 1: Given that the local ordinary was superseded by the "Ruini Commission" officially appointed by Pope Benedict XVI and that their recommendation to allow official pilgrimages to Medjugorje was approved later by Pope Francis, despite the local ordinary's objection to them, allows a Catholic to prudentially withhold their judgment concerning the authenticity of the apparitions. In addition, this also does not make one guilty of disobedience to the legitimate Church authorities concerning making pilgrimages to Medjugorje. In addition, new information was given by the official investigating Committee that also made it known that the Vatican investigation determined the first seven apparitions to be of supernatural origin.  

The Commission stated that 13 out of 15 delegates voted constat de supernaturalitate (confirmed to be of supernatural origin) regarding the first seven apparitions, therefore, offering a contrary opinion to the local ordinary. The Commission stated, "On the basis of these data, the International Commission considers that it can affirm with reasonable certainty that the first seven apparitions prove to be intrinsically credible, as they were capable of fostering in those who saw them an awakening of faith, a conversion in their way of life, and a renewed sense of belonging to the Church." In lieu of these facts, the prudential withholding of judgment here does not constitute disobedience and thus can be considered to be prudential. 

Reply to Objection 2: Given that this extensive investigation over the period of four years clearly separated the initial apparitions of the first seven to those that followed for a myriad of reasons, only the messages given during this initial period can be evaluated as to the supernatural element in this instance. Internet sources conflict greatly in translation and date of origin as to the questionable content of later messages. The messages of the first seven apparitions have been deemed credible by the Commission which has carried out the most extensive investigation of ecclesiastical authorities thus far. If there are questionable messages after this period this does not constitute a problem with the initial messages of which have been considered in the decision "constat de supernaturalitate." Thus later questionable messages do not necessitate that one judge the approved messages or apparitions as being wholly false and thus a Catholic can consider withholding judgment prudential. 

Reply to Objection 3: Cardinal Muller's personal opinion does not hold any authority over the faithful to adopt his personal opinion. There are other Cardinals, bishops, reputable theologians, or figures of authority who hold the opposite view. As far as the former exorcist Bishop Andrea Gemma's negative response I can offer the response of the former exorcist of the Vatican Father Gabriel Amorth who said, "Surely. Medjugorje is a fortress against Satan. Satan hates Medjugorje because it is a place of conversion, of prayer, of transformation of life." His statement follows closely with the Commission's later official statement quoted in the reply to objection 1 as well as the following comment, "The hypothesis of a demonic origin from the beginnings of the phenomenon appears gratuitous and unfounded, being in contrast with what was observed on the initial profile of the phenomenon, as well as with the positive fruits derived from the phenomenon itself." Taken at face value it appears that Father Amorth's view coincides closely with the later decision by the official Vatican Commission. 

Thus pitting these "authorities" against one another is an argumentum ab auctoritate meaning that because one holds an opinion while being an authoritative figure in the Church does not mean they are right or that the faithful have to prudentially follow their judgment. Given that many of them hold opposing opinions means that they themselves being figures of authority disagree with one another and therefore a lay Catholic withholding their own judgment on the matter can be viewed as all the more prudential. Thus a Catholic who takes these contrary opinions into account can in good faith withhold his or her judgment. 

Reply to Objection 4: Given that a Catholic is actively pursuing an investigation into this specific question they cannot be guilty of being lukewarm. The very fact that they are pursuing the truth by gathering essential information that will allow them to eventually make a prudential judgment for or against is the very act and nature of the virtue of prudence. Father Garrigou Lagrange in his work on Our Lady, 'The Mother of the Saviour' spoke of how Our Lady never erred in her judgment. He also pointed out the fact that if she did not have sufficient intellectual knowledge or light to determine something, she withheld her judgment or agreed only on a probability. He wrote, "She was never precipitate (prematurely) in judging; if she had not sufficient light she suspended her judgment; if she was not sure about a thing she was satisfied to affirm that it was likely or probable." If this can possibly in any sense apply to Our Immaculate Lady while she was on earth, why must a Catholic today who is totally subject to the defects of Original Sin, feel the need to pronounce an immediate judgment concerning this matter if they do not feel they have sufficient knowledge, evidence, or light to make one? 

Finally, the ad-hominem attacks on the priests and the purported behaviors of the seers have been investigated regarding the initial apparitions and were deemed not to be an issue. In fact, they were judged to be positive. Even the questionable actions of the seers as a whole years later were deemed not to be of an immoral nature but only manifestations of weakness and the lack of spiritual direction. The Commission said regarding these accusations, "...ambiguous in certain aspects, with money (and with that in general can be called a preoccupation with their own “wellbeing”). Yet this ambiguity, rather than being located on the side of immorality, is found on the side of the structure of the person, often lacking a solid discernment and a coherent orientation, and also because an available and steady spiritual guide has been lacking to them in the course of these thirty years."  Thus the negative behaviors that allegedly happened after the fact, are also amply noted by the Commission and are considered not to be a factor in upholding the declaration of constat de supernaturalitate.

The only negative issue regarding immoral behavior concerned one seer, "This negative dynamic reaches its apex in the case of Ivan Dragičević, whose continuing meetings and conferences on the Medjugorje phenomenon seem to constitute his only work and support. He has also lied multiple times and is also less credible in the way he speaks of experiences with the Gospa." This critical judgment although calling into question his later credibility in no way forces one to make a negative judgment on the initial apparitions nor do they apply to the other seers. Does one seer who has lost his way prove the others have also? In fact, the report explicitly speaks of this, "It is not said that the witnesses are totally and forever faithful to what they received as a gift or supernatural sign:..."  Therefore one does not act in any way against prudence by withholding judgment because of these alleged character flaws or purported behavioral issues with the seers. 

In regard to the conflict between the Franciscans and the local ordinary, this conflict preceded the alleged apparitions by many decades. Furthermore, any immoral actions of priests associated with the events although may cause scandal do not absolutely prove a negative judgment on the apparitions any more than immoral priests absolutely prove a negative judgment the Church herself, the foundation of the religious order they belong to or the truth of other prudential things that they should uphold. This is a non-sequitur. Shall we dismiss everything that one holds to be true if we find them guilty of mortal sin? These "questionable" instances in no way force a Catholic to make a judgment on the apparitions. Thus, in summary, based on this information, a Catholic can legitimately act in prudential good faith through withholding his or her judgment regarding the legitimacy of the alleged apparitions of Medjugorje. 

In Closing

Notice again here that I am in no way arguing for or against the alleged apparitions. They may be true, they may be false, or they may be true in part. I merely stated the fact that with the evidence that I have available to me I can prudentially withhold my judgment until I acquire more knowledge on the subject. I also refuted the claims which were presented to me that I was acting imprudently or lacking in my integrity by doing so. Although I am no Aquinas I hope to have presented my small quodlibet case with honesty and integrity based on what I understand to be true. For those interested in learning how the Vatican Commission came to their conclusions. I have included a link to the translated document which to my knowledge was never published on the Vatican website, but was quoted extensively by many Catholic press organizations such as the National Catholic Register, Aleteia, and other reporters

Anyone wanting to weigh in on this quodlibet, feel free to post a comment on one condition. That your response is in the form of an objection or a response to an objection. In other words, no cut and paste drive-by posts, please. 




Comments

  1. Excellent quodlibet, Saint Thomas would be impressed. You answered all the accusations in a informative, authoritative and concise manner. The person leveling those accusations sounds to me to be the one who lacks prudence.

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  2. That was an honest,middle of the road,omission riddled revealing article .
    Some questions that some how do not affect your neutrality ;
    What other approved "Major" apparition(s) can you cite, as this one claims to be and would further be the "Greatest" as it has lasted nearly 40 years, had "visionaries" who`s spiritual director and overseer, whom the Gospa purportedly said was chosen by Her "expressly" , was defrocked for impregnating a nun and then abandoning her and the child?
    How does the fact that Ivan, one of the alleged visionaries who lives in a $1,000,000.00 home in Boston with his former Miss Massachusetts wife where he resides from October thru May when he is not in Medjugorje at his other opulent residence while there exists a great poverty in near proximity to both habitations not affect your neutrality?
    Marija Pavlovic, who lives in Monza with her husband owns a 54 room 4 star hotel in Medjugorje that requires cash payment on checkout and has apparitions with Gospa only for paying customers. Does this raise any flags for you?
    Why did you omit that in 2014, the (indulgent) pontifical commission of inquiry on Medjugorje admitted in its final report, the same one you cite here, that "the witnesses of the supernatural sign originally addressed to them now effectively have a relation, ambiguous in certain aspects, with money"?
    (Amiguous?)
    [Final Report of the Pontifical International Commission of Inquiry on Medjugorje, in Saverio Gaeta, Dossier Medjugorje, San Paolo Edizioni, 2020, p. 81 and David Murgia, Rapporto su Medjugorje, Il Segno di Giona, 2020, p. 57]["Eco di Medjugorje", No 84, July 1991, p. 6]
    Does the concern of Fr. Father René Laurentin, (in 1991) speaking of the "spiritual risks" that the seers had to deal with, stating that Marija "had gone from the poorest family among all the visionaries to a condition of wealth that led her to a very different culture and to an easy and brilliant life" bring any real doubts to your mnd?
    Further stating that the twenty-six-year-old Ivan "has begun to like playboy clothing and has developed an exaggerated care for his own person" have any play on your neutrality in consideration of the historically verified lives of all other major approved apparition visionaries who suffered immensely for the privilege of being spoken to by the Blessed Virgin?
    These being just the "tip of the iceberg" in regards to this purported apparition reminds me of someone who vehemently attacked me when I said that the worldwide response to the Covid19 did not add up according to the evidence and that it's consequences would be worse than the virus.
    He certainly would have been better off, like you, remaining neutral had he not the ability to reason by the empirical evidence given at the time that response was a HUGE mistake if not an orchestrated attack on capitalism and individual liberty!
    The enormous difference is the while the virus affects the temporal, this apparition potentially effects the Eternal.

    Stay neutral my friend; worked great for Sweden in WWII!

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  3. So you apparently did not read or comprehend the reply to objection 4 which adequately answers what you wrote here concerning the behavior of the alleged seers well after the initial appropriations. You fail to distinguish. Read again my reply to objection 4. Second, what does Covid-19 have to do with anything here? You have fallen into two classic fallacies the first being an ad-hominem concerning the character of the person referenced in your Covid comment, and it is secondly a Red Herring since you obviously want to change the subject we are discussing. Finally your last line is a false analogy. You contributed here to educating my readers on how recognize logical fallacies. Thanks for contributing.

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  4. Matt OP objection 4
    "Finally, the ad-hominem attacks on the priests and the purported behaviors of the seers have been investigated regarding the initial apparitions and were deemed not to be an issue. In fact, they were judged to be positive."

    I must have missed something. How does the initial Priest/spiritual director, of the now filthy rich visionaries , who was defrocked for breaking his vows by fornication and child abandonment with a nun become an ad-hominem attack? Seems quite relevant and anything but positive!
    I refuse to be inducted into game playing. If you are not man enough to answer each of my initial questions one by one sincerely without detraction then you are what you accuse others of being; not seeking the truth. Either answer my questions directly or run for political office as a democrat ; or a neutral independent.

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  5. Let me pt this in an orderly format. I will frame this as another objection.

    Objection 5 as you stated, "Further stating that the twenty-six-year-old Ivan "has begun to like playboy clothing and has developed an exaggerated care for his own person" have any play on your neutrality in consideration of the historically verified lives of all other major approved apparition visionaries who suffered immensely for the privilege of being spoken to by the Blessed Virgin?"

    Response to objection 5: There are two answers to be given. The first being that the later questionable actions of alleged seers do not constitute a mandatory rejection of the initial apparitions which have been declared by the Commission established by Pope Benedict XVI to be of supernatural order. The second is this. You state that such a current sinner in the person of Ivan could never had been spoken to by the Blessed Virgin. Did God Himself not speak to men who later turned out to be great sinners? He gave King David direct messages to lead the people of God, and yet, King David later had a man killed so he could commit the sin of adultery. What about those prophets who suffered to remain faithful to God, while King David went off like a playboy committing murder and adultery? David eventually repented. Is this not possible with Ivan? If God could have spoken initially to the later sinful David can not the Blessed Mother of God have initially spoken to Ivan and then Ivan went off and lived a life of sin for a time? Is this not possible? The Commission addressed Ivan's issues directly as I quoted in my response to objection 4. Therefore the ad-hominem attacks on the alleged seers you presented, this one in particular concerning Ivan, are not sufficient to discount the decision of the Commission nor do they put me at odds with my prudential decision to withhold my judgment.

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